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Strategy - restless ore dropping from trash atm (2 Viewers)

an_image said:
Classic money grab move in my opinion...no way that it was an error. They just wanted to capitalize on subs and expansion hits for the studio sale.
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I think it is much more complicated that than - and not nearly as nefarious.

I think dbg is basically in a "rebuilding" year - between all the hits they've taken - covid challenges, holly leaving, new tlps, database migration, a whole slew of technical failures, several long time developers leaving - it was just a perfect storm that falls heavy on us as the user. it really sucks - they probably weighed up delaying the xpac until its complete or releasing incomplete and decided on what they did for whatever reason.

like jande says I really suspect this will have a pretty rough impact on active players unless they hit us with some additional stuff here in an couple of months - otherwise its going to be a long year.
 
Atrocity said:
So they nerfed the drop chance as Ngreth said in the post, but didn't add it to chests as said in the same post. nice lol
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They should have one ore per chest and like a 50% chance to drop from a T2 named. That would be fair enough but since they screwed up they will swing the pendulum in the complete opposite direction. 🙄
 
Jetanroth said:
They should have one ore per chest and like a 50% chance to drop from a T2 named. That would be fair enough but since they screwed up they will swing the pendulum in the complete opposite direction. 🙄
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Yep. On another note. I got a crystallized precious velium ore from a WW named earlier.....that was interesting. (yes, the type 18 aug ore from ToV)
 
Sic said:
I think it is much more complicated that than - and not nearly as nefarious.

I think dbg is basically in a "rebuilding" year - between all the hits they've taken - covid challenges, holly leaving, new tlps, database migration, a whole slew of technical failures, several long time developers leaving - it was just a perfect storm that falls heavy on us as the user. it really sucks - they probably weighed up delaying the xpac until its complete or releasing incomplete and decided on what they did for whatever reason.

like jande says I really suspect this will have a pretty rough impact on active players unless they hit us with some additional stuff here in an couple of months - otherwise its going to be a long year.
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this seems to be most likely chain of events really....
 
At this rate they may as well leave the droprate alone, damang is done. Another 3 1/2 weeks of farming and nobody should be needing bricks in a very long time
 
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This is my first year with a full group, so my perspective is a little different. With just a main and oddball groupage I pretty much had to go the long way through gear. But this is just too fast/easy but I would be dumb not to do it.
 
They Fixed the @#$^ out of these all right,

So in short:
Pre Patch off Trash in WW 10-24 ores with median of 16-18 ores on avg per 8 hours.
Post Patch off Trash 1 ore avg per 8 hours, Same average across 7 different sessions of 8-12 hours
Even in named camp that includes ore dropping trash models, its about 1 ore per 10 named spawns.

Same mobs, same kill rate which is a sustained 1.2 mil total group DPS average.

Just thought I would update everyone. I am glad that its at least a chance to drop during a normal grind, which is always better then any previous XPAC that had Zero Ores from trash, so that is a good thing.
 
Smokeybear72 said:
They Fixed the @#$^ out of these all right,

So in short:
Pre Patch off Trash in WW 10-24 ores with median of 16-18 ores on avg per 8 hours.
Post Patch off Trash 1 ore avg per 8 hours, Same average across 7 different sessions of 8-12 hours
Even in named camp that includes ore dropping trash models, its about 1 ore per 10 named spawns.

Same mobs, same kill rate which is a sustained 1.2 mil total group DPS average.

Just thought I would update everyone. I am glad that its at least a chance to drop during a normal grind, which is always better then any previous XPAC that had Zero Ores from trash, so that is a good thing.
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Your kill rate will determine how many ore you get and not all the mobs you're killing drop them to start with. Its like 1/400.
 
william12 said:
Your kill rate will determine how many ore you get and not all the mobs you're killing drop them to start with. Its like 1/400.
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That might be what they hoped to put in as RNG , I looted nearly 1000 ores since launch, so I would argue that I have a good idea what we were seeing. RNG of course conquers all, but its has not been anything close to 1:400 since patch using the same groups in the same camp spots.

Of course W12, you run an entire army at once compared to most of us running just a couple groups or less, so are saying you are seeing 1:400 or just by NGreths post about how he was supposed to implement his new 2d2 rolls ?

*I also have been rotting on missions, but was just trying to give an update on the difference I have witnessed*
 
Smokeybear72 said:
That might be what they hoped to put in as RNG , I looted nearly 1000 ores since launch, so I would argue that I have a good idea what we were seeing. RNG of course conquers all, but its has not been anything close to 1:400 since patch using the same groups in the same camp spots.

Of course W12, you run an entire army at once compared to most of us running just a couple groups or less, so are saying you are seeing 1:400 or just by NGreths post about how he was supposed to implement his new 2d2 rolls ?
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1 to 400 Is less than he intended it to be a lot of people I know are seeing 1 to 125 or 1%. I haven’t been back though since.I picked up 150 ore for pre-break. At this point I farm missions if I need ore. One day I need to do I’ll head back to see what I was getting. Pre-nerf I was 4 ores pre hours, my expectation is to expect to see 1 ore per hour 15min now (account for lower % and RNG).
 
Smokeybear72 said:
That might be what they hoped to put in as RNG , I looted nearly 1000 ores since launch, so I would argue that I have a good idea what we were seeing. RNG of course conquers all, but its has not been anything close to 1:400 since patch using the same groups in the same camp spots.

Of course W12, you run an entire army at once compared to most of us running just a couple groups or less, so are saying you are seeing 1:400 or just by NGreths post about how he was supposed to implement his new 2d2 rolls ?

*I also have been rotting on missions, but was just trying to give an update on the difference I have witnessed*
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Ill use 6 groups camping the entire WW cave basically at about 400 mobs an hr and im seeing 1 ore an hr or near it including what i get off the 2 named that spawn. Keep in mind not all the mobs in the caves like the assistants do not drop ore the blue caretakers do not drop ore.
 
william12 said:
Ill use 6 groups camping the entire WW cave basically at about 400 mobs an hr and im seeing 1 ore an hr or near it including what i get off the 2 named that spawn. Keep in mind not all the mobs in the caves like the assistants do not drop ore the blue caretakers do not drop ore.
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Intersting, about the Caretakers, I know they did prior to patch as I looted many ores from them. We intentionally paid attention because it was a debate on a post regarding that same topic.

Good info though all around, thanks for chiming in.
 
Smokeybear72 said:
Intersting, about the Caretakers, I know they did prior to patch as I looted many ores from them. We intentionally paid attention because it was a debate on a post regarding that same topic.

Good info though all around, thanks for chiming in.
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Caretakers spawn blue and red. The red ones drop ore the blue ones do not.

More interesting is i camped named in CS the last few days and im getting ore way more often from them because they spawn at a higher rate and thats just with 1 group and 1 named.
 
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Prior to the patch I collected a list of everything that was dropping (still technically do) and these are what I found to drop the ore for me.
Presumably all of these can drop it post patch, just at a much lower rate.
 
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