Question - The last piece of the puzzle (MQ2NAV door opening issue) (1 Viewer)

[Ninjapickle]

I will pay you 1 BILLION dollars* to help me figure this out!

So, I do most of my power leveling of my toons in ST. Shocking, I know. My issue is that I can't for the life of me get my puller (or any toons) to open the doors. I posted about this awhile back and SIC recommended using the UI Nav tool and debug doors to check the distance it which the doors were being clicked. I think he also mentioned something about the actual size of the toon making a difference.
Well, I've tried resetting the click distance in 1 foot increments from 1 foot to 40 feet on a couple of different toons, and no luck at all. I've tried with toons being normal size and shrunk, one was an ogre and the other a DE.

There are approx 359 bot groups in ST, and they don't seem to have any issues going through doors ><
Haaaaalp!

*payable on 1/1/2301

 

[Sum1]

Did you edit the Nav meshes to leave a narrower path through the doors? My guys would always try to take the doors too close to the edge, which kept them from going through, even if they clicked them.

 

[Onamatter]

Had the same problem in Skyshrine. So nav to the nearest door and then open mq2nav tool - Debug tools - Door Handler Debug - trigger distance is what you need to incease. Look at the first OBJ_INTDOOR # ( should be the door your standing at) whatever that number is round it up and make it your new trigger distance.
Also in mq2nav tool - settings - navigation - automatically click nearby doors is selected.

 

[Ninjapickle]

Had the same problem in Skyshrine. So nav to the nearest door and then open mq2nav tool - Debug tools - Door Handler Debug - trigger distance is what you need to incease. Look at the first OBJ_INTDOOR # ( should be the door your standing at) whatever that number is round it up and make it your new trigger distance.
Also in mq2nav tool - settings - navigation - automatically click nearby doors is selected.

We're getting closer, I think! So I tried this in ST and with a different toon in POK as well. In POK, clicking "force enabled" turned all of the names of doors etc white andshowed the distance from any given door I approached. In ST, that doesn't happen. The names of clickable objects stay red and it never shows the distance to the door. Any ideas?

 

[Onamatter]

mq2nav tool - Debug tools - objects - vew doors, will give you a list of all doors.
So when i was in skyshrine and navigated to a door and got stuck, my distance to the door trigger was 40, but my door trigger was set at 20, so i set it to 50 and it worked.

 

[Sum1]

Ack, wait, now that I think about it, I wasn't using a mac to pull when I was doing TBL ST.

 

[Ninjapickle]

mq2nav tool - Debug tools - objects - vew doors, will give you a list of all doors.
So when i was in skyshrine and navigated to a door and got stuck, my distance to the door trigger was 40, but my door trigger was set at 20, so i set it to 50 and it worked.

So I solved one problem, and now he'll click the doors to open them. Turns out I needed to uncheck the "ignore scripted doors" option. Woot!
However, now the issue is he goes to the side of the doors just enough to get stuck. Any tips on that one?

 

[Sic]

So I solved one problem, and now he'll click the doors to open them. Turns out I needed to uncheck the "ignore scripted doors" option. Woot!
However, now the issue is he goes to the side of the doors just enough to get stuck. Any tips on that one?

yes, adjust your mesh so you go to the center

in zone - area types i usually create something with a very high are value


and then areas i want to avoid "mark" with that hellaAvoid and make the green prefered



re: the doors - yes any door that is more than 1 "door" - like double doors, or a button that triggers a rock to open are "scripted doors" and you have to turn off the ignore scriped doors

here is my ST mesh

 

[jande]

So I solved one problem, and now he'll click the doors to open them. Turns out I needed to uncheck the "ignore scripted doors" option. Woot!
However, now the issue is he goes to the side of the doors just enough to get stuck. Any tips on that one?

Navmesh editing :P Mine is even more aggressive than Sic's I make sections not pathable.

 

[LorDeth]

So I solved one problem, and now he'll click the doors to open them. Turns out I needed to uncheck the "ignore scripted doors" option. Woot!
However, now the issue is he goes to the side of the doors just enough to get stuck. Any tips on that one?

I was having the same problem in ST when i was in there before.. but only on one door.. the .. left one? (between left big room and middle)

I'll try out your fix next time i'm down there, but cheers thanks for figuring it out and posting!

 

[Ninjapickle]

WOOT! Using the navmesh provided by Jande did the trick! I'm so happy and excited lol. Thanks to everyone who replied, you all are awesome!

 

[Sic]

just fyi - the problem with making something not pathable (when it is) versus a high avoidance is if you end up on that spot due to fighting something, or a knockback, or bumping another player - now your toon is stuck there. I strongly advise using a custom valued avoid in places that you can nav, but just don't want to

edit: there are plenty of times where i DO use can't path - but somewhere i might get in a pickle at isn't one of them

 

[jande]

just fyi - the problem with making something not pathable (when it is) versus a high avoidance is if you end up on that spot due to fighting something, or a knockback, or bumping another player - now your toon is stuck there. I strongly advise using a custom valued avoid in places that you can nav, but just don't want to

That is true, I mostly did the doors there for collection item pickups with a rogue. No fighting.

Pickle try this one out, changed no-pathing to high avoidance

 

[Sic]

That is true, I mostly did the doors there for collection item pickups with a rogue. No fighting.

yeah either way is obviously fine and work - its just something to keep in mind for spots that you might end up in a pickle

 

[Many_Whelps]

Unfortunately, any of these edits will get overwritten the next time you update meshes via the launcher unless someone has included a doors friendly mesh in the pack that gets pushed to the launcher.

 

[Sic]

Unfortunately, any of these edits will get overwritten the next time you update meshes via the launcher unless someone has included a doors friendly mesh in the pack that gets pushed to the launcher.

I can no longer push meshes to the updater otherwise i would

 

[jande]

Unfortunately, any of these edits will get overwritten the next time you update meshes via the launcher unless someone has included a doors friendly mesh in the pack that gets pushed to the launcher.

Make the file readonly /shrug :P

 

[hermanshepard]

Hey I took Sic's mesh from above and dropped it in my folder... is there anything else I need to do for it to be applied now? Thanks Sic!

 

[Sic]

Hey I took Sic's mesh from above and dropped it in my folder... is there anything else I need to do for it to be applied now? Thanks Sic!

/nav reload to reload your mesh